The Sandbox: Episode 23, We’re Back!

People who want F2P are ruining MMo’s because the communitys with F2P are trash, and to get anywhere you end up spending more then 15 a month so, todays gamers are making me sick to my stomach they whine way to much , and frankly I’m sick of it. I went to school to help make better games, but why should we make games for people who whine about everything ??

Gamers today expect the world, I wish just one of them would make a game and then come talk..

Not saying anyone here is whining i’m saying in general.

I see why DEVS are doing this and soon P2P model will be gone and what is left of communitys will go down with it.. I’m real close to say the hell with MMO’s all together because of shit like this.

@Embers of Caerus, looks like there doing what every indie should be doing and I do wish them the best.

But with gamers today frankly I dunno because people are already hating on them with stupid comments on every forum saying its to good to be true, gamers today have way to much time on there hands and no life, they need to get off there high horses.!

About Earthrise, they are using that world, and its gonna be a sandbox, they are fixing the bugs, the combat and changing crafting, thats it….

The fact is that your brought up Fallen earth is a prime example of what F2P does I played that game since beta and after… It had one of the best communitys around hands down.. When it went F2P, it brought so many douche bags in its sick and the cheaters are all over, we had some at release but no where near as bad as now.

WOW, is a bad example because everyone in there brother plays it.

I’m talking most games… That went Free after they where Pay and look at Free to play games now,…. MOST have bad communitys, I test and play many, many games due to what I do, and yes there are some that are ok, and yes some p2p HAVE bad communitys but they get worse when they go free and the cheaters roll in even worse then before…

Those are facts.

LOTR , when I played it I hardly seen anyone, and when I ran into people they where nice and the main reason was because they came from asheron call 1 and 2 which had one of the best communitys hands down and still does. SO yes some free games that can happen…….

ABOUT earthrise again, I doubt they will bring us a decent game, I think they are the same devs as before, well some of them… Listen to the way they talk, I been a fan of that game for ever and a player since early beat , Coolit knows that, but we have asked the new Devs what have they worked on before and they won’t respond properly with a direct anwser??

That to me scares me because what are they hiding??? I have heard of many companies before and indies, and I never heard of there company, how do we know it isn’t MHS, with a new name, many, many companies do this to start fresh…

They claim the GUI is done already???? I personally think they will fix the loading issue, which needed be fixed, the lag was fixed , then they brought in the big patch and the lag was back, so I’m sure that issue will be fixed, but I think they will add all new quests, with a new story, add come new crafting, but not far from what it is now, hoefully what it was in early beta.. They need to bring back ammo again.. which I doubt they will, whats funny the AH still shows you can buy it, which you don’t have to or need to, it was something from beta they never removed.

But honeslty I have many doubts … They claim they will be ready this year, so really how much can they get done, in 6 months??? I work with games every day, and I know how long it takes to do what they do, so I doubt they are gonna change alot if it gets done this year. That game engine is full of bugs and to work with someone else code, HA good luck, its prolly a mess.

The reason you shouldn’t expect the world from devs, is because its not possible. coding is not perfect and I used to think like this as well, I went to school and after seeing what they do, I give them a shit load of respect.!

I don’t think we should kiss there ass but gamers cry way more today more then ever about the dumbest things and expect it done in 3 seconds….. I love to see gamers even do the simplest line of code, or even the easier3D model, or even use the programs they use to make the simplest game …

Then gamers cry when the game is 60 bucks!! Some need a new hobby if they can’t spend that for a hobby… I’m not saying all gamers are they way, most sandbox gamers aren’t, I think alot of them respect them more, but Themepark players, don’t……

Again NOT all, MOST…… Don’t read into it to much.