The Sandbox – Episode 25, The Least Effort

Most MMo’s know they are going F2P, because thats the market hell in school they already tell new devs to go that route because there is a market for it and you make more money, by the way SWTOR did not flop they made there money back and then some the first day out. They continue to be the 2nd most played MMO on the market.

No offense but no matter how much we bash, WOW and SWTOR those make money more than sandbox’s, I wish it was the other way around, because I love them more, but those are the facts.

Anyways have fun in DFO, sadly I won’t be back, I’m way to busy and I rather wait for there new game when it comes out. Have fun!

I’m a bit lost on saying SWTOR is a single player??? I played the entire game from 1 – max, and raided with my guild, never alone., WOW is the same setup, so calling SWTOR a single player game always makes me laugh, I can play DFO alone, which I have and do all the time, does that mean I will do really well? Maybe, but I won’t get to Raid, which is the same in any game.,

I do agree SWTOR story was more fun now than the raiding since my guild completed the content really fast, WOW took longer but we did complete the content as well. Today there is far more MMO’s than when WOW was released , WOW did really well because it catered to more then one play style and it was easy to play…. Now everyone is trying to clone it, people think why would I play a clone when I have the real thing so they go back to WOW, those are facts thats why WOW has done well and they know how to do business.

Now SWTOR made there money and yes they did, I don’t get when people say a game flops because it goes Free 2 Play, which is where most big games will go in the long run, and they know there is a good chance it will /could happen, they make a hell of alot more money with the F2P model. Those are facts.

F2P method is very smart when it comes to buisness heck WOW uses it, RIft uses it, they use it the first what 20 levels I think, I have not played in awhile, but they do that to draw the player in, with out it people don’t wanna spend a dime unless they get to check it out, people can say well 14 trials, well thats not enough people have lives so they may not have the time to pay for a month sub and feel like they go there money worth not everyone is hard core gamers, and some just don’t have the time as some others.

I personally can’t stand F2P, I pefer sub based or B2P. But thats me, there are many reasons why, I won’t go into that, but what NAT said I nearly completely agree. I work for a company right now thats is making a game, and there an indie they are doing P2P, sub based, but they know that there is a good chance they will be F2P in 6 months because of the market and gamers are wanting it, the majoity that is alot of gamers like to pay as they go, those are facts, which sucks but soon enough all games with be free to play…

LOTR, DDO prime examples of how much more money can be made with those models and others companys see it, Fallen earth even though they are smaller, APB, and FE had made more money, no where near what turbine has, because of the style of game they are, they only attract certain players.

This is why when making a game you need to see who your gonna attract the more games, I make, the more I get involved, I have changed the way I do things and think because of the market, because in the end DEVS are in it to make money. Yes some DEVS wanna me the game of there dreams, but that dream may not make money to survive and thats why we see some indies FAIL.

I only use the word FAIL on games off line, Dawntide, if a game has made money they did NOT fail, that word drives me crazy because if I made a game, and made 500k and shut off later, I would be a happy person because I would just make a better game, which alot of companys do under different names, thats just how buisness goes.

Earthrise, I strongly believe its the same team or some of the same. But thats my speculation.

By the way , is anyone gonna check out Mortal online expansion that is coming out next week possible?? If I have some time, I may sub just to check it out.

To bad, I was looking forward to look for you nubs so we can roll ya! My guild will be on Darkhaven…can’t wait for W v W see ya on the battlefield!